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The Great VP Debate – Part II

Well, after an hour and a half of blathering about being a maverick, a hockey mom, having a special needs child, and getting lots of things wrong, all while smirking at Joe Biden when she wasn’t being cuter than a button, the results are in. BIDEN WON!

And, in other news, an Alaskan judge has decided not to throw out Troopergate. The report comes out on October 10th and the McCain team did not strengthen their case when they convinced Todd Palin and others not to obey subpoenas. Isn’t that against the law? I thought so.

But here’s the interesting question. If Palin decides that she needs to leave the ticket, with some help from McCain’s staffers, who on earth would want the job? You see, there’s a slight problem. Being the VP candidate on a losing ticket is a death sentence for future political aspirations. Sure, you can go back to being who you were, but you AIN’T gonna be President. Or VP for that matter. In my 56 years, I can’t think of one VP candidate who lost who went on to become President. Yes, I know Nixon was a VP. And he lost to Kennedy as a Presidential candidate and went on to win several years later. But name me one person in the past 50 years who lost a VP contest and went on to be someone again. (I am not discussing failed bids for re-election either.)

So do you think Huckabee, Romney, or any of the other aspirants to the Oval Office would be willing to sign on to a losing ticket? If they did, they’d mark themselves as total fools. Nope, if they want a chance in 2012, they’d better take a pass. So who would he get? Well, maybe Lieberman. He’s already lost any chance he had. And he’d just lose again because the “base” would object to his pro-life stance.

Either way, the only way for McCain to pull this one out is a) cheat (enter voter fraud in your browser if you don’t know what I’m talking about) or for b) Obama to make a huge mistake. However, Obama has pretty much proved himself to be accessible, intelligent, bright enough to know what he doesn’t know and surround himself with good people, and fairly unflappable. And, despite the Republican’s bashing of community organizing, Obama has put together a strong team that has registered an unheard of number of new voters. Mostly Democrats.

BTW, there is a video on YouTube of McCain in which it appears he is having a mini-stroke. His face acts weird, he becomes confused, it happens again, and he can’t find his way off the stage. Now, there are usually two ways off, stage left and stage right. But he’s trying to walk to the back which appears to be a wall. Someone actually has to help him find his way off stage. I’ll try to find the link tomorrow.

UPDATE: Found it:

The Great VP Debate Part 1

Right now i’m doing my debate prep: reheating some eggplant and stuffed peppers in the microwave, watching the pre-game show on CNN, making sure I have a full drink (no commercials so not TOO full), trying to calm the adrenaline rush I get when my news junkie persona takes over.

I should be working but I’m obsessed with Sarah Palin.

CNN’s little wavy line poll is now showing Ohio uncommitted voters, male and female. Palin has her hair in bouffant with the back hanging down. To hide a wire?

Biden goes for the Bush jugular right off the bat. And then pumps Obama’s plan for the economy. So far so good.

Palin just told us to watch a kid’s soccer game. She’s talking about fear. Now she’s lying and saying McCain was addressing the economy two years ago.

Biden is talking now. About DV, police, his record on bipartisanship. He’s now saying McCain said the economy was strong and George Bush did a hell of a job.

Ooops…She said maverick and talked about Obama voting 96 percent of the time along party lines.

Gwen wants to know what they will do as Vice President and plans to come back to that.

Palin is blaming predatory lenders and greed on Wall Street. Joe Six Pack and Hockey Moms. Dang! Where’s my Sarah Palin bingo card?

Biden is talking now about McCain’s support for deregulation for the past two years. And how he wants to deregulate the health care industry.

Biden just called her a liar on taxes and pointed out that Palin did not answer the question about deregulation.

Palin says she cut taxes in Alaska, and is refusing to answer the question.

Interesting that the women in the poll are more negative about Palin than the men.

Palin starts talking and the lines drop. YAY. Now she’s talking about how she took on Big Oil.  Line isn’t changing much. Claims Obama voted for energy laws that she had to undo. And there is nothing she has promised that she would not be able to do.

Biden: Obama voted to eliminate tax breaks for Big Oil, McCain did not. Palin supported windfall profit tax? McCain does not.

Palin: would have supported making it harder for people to declare bankruptcy. Then she went off on a ramble about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and how McCain warned us.

Biden: Obama wrote to ? about subprime mortgages two years ago. Is proposing allowing bankruptcy judges to modify mortgages.

Palin: She’s gone back to energy, is avoiding questions about economy. Oil for energy independence?

YAY! Climate change. Palin says Alaska sees impact more than other states, cyclical climate changes are to blame. (Tell that to New Orleans and Galveston.) Blames other countries for polluting more than US.

Biden: It’s man-made. If you don’t understand causes, hard to come up with solutions. McCain has voted 20 times against clean energy sources. Obama wants to encourage solar, wind power, invest in clean coal. McCain thinks answer is drill, drill, drill.  3 percent of world’s oil reserves, uses 25 percent of world’s oil.

Palin: Dems said drilling is wrong tack. Nucular. She said it, not me. I know how to spell and pronounce it.

Biden: Hard targets on clean coal. How do we deal with global warming if we rely on fossil fuels?

Biden: Same-sex benefits – YES. Will all be treated the same.

Palin: Ok in Alaska, but not if changes definition of marriage.

Biden: Not talking about the definition of marriage. That should be left to the religions.

Foreign Policy:

Palin: Surge, counter-insurgency part of the plan. McCain supported. Obama voted against supporting troops. Have plan for withdrawal, but not early withdrawal, can’t afford to lose against Al-Quada. (who are not in Iraq, BTW)

Biden: GOP has no plan, troop draw down. McCain voted against funding the troops because there was a timeline. Dems will end this war. McCain has no plan to end it.

Palin: Dem plan is white flag of surrender. We will know when Iraqis can govern themselves. Says Obama will cut off funding for the troops.

Biden: McCain voted against funding for troops, said lots of things totally wrong about the war. Obama has been right.

Biden: Pakistan has nuclear weapons, has deployed them, can hit Israel and Mediterrean. Would be a bad thing if Iran gets nuclear weapons. McCain says Iraq is center of terrorism.

Palin: Petraeus and Al-Queda said Iraq is center of war on terror. Just called Ahmejindad insane. Called Obama naive. Not smart to engage dictators on Presidential level.

Biden: Obama did not say he would sit down with Ahmjinedad. Theocracy runs security operation in Iran. Allies, others saying we need to sit down with others. Allies not going to sit down with us if we don’t sit down with others. McCain won’t even sit down with Spain, a NATO ally.

Palin: on Israel, two state solution is the right solution. Called Israel a peace-seeking nation.

Biden: Obama said West Bank elections bad idea. Hamas won. Other stuff I didn’t catch. Only thing on march is Iran. Thoughtful, real life diplomacy.

Palin: Bush administration has not been wrong on Israel. Taking over the change motto. Country first. Maverick. Glad they are both lovers of Israel.

Biden: Past is prologue. Hasn’t heard how McCain’s policies are going to be different than  McCain.

Palin: Nucular (sic) weapons would be the end-all, be-all of blah, blah, blah, wandering around in the wilderness. Ours are deterrents. Theirs are for agression. Afghanistan: fighting terrorists, building schools, we will win there.

Biden: Facts matter. Commanding general in Afghanistan said the surge principal will not work in Afghanistan, need more troops, more money for infrastructure. Spend more money in 3 weeks in Iraq than we have spent in 7 years in Afghanistan. McCain voted against comprehensive test ban treaty, weapons inspections. McCain against arms control

Palin: McClelland did not say surge would not work.

Biden: McClelland did say that. McCain said Afghanistan not in news because it “succeeded”

Biden: Interventionism. It worked in Bosnia. McCain voted against. Iraq said a mistake to go in. Voted to give President power but not to go to Iraq. Does not have a stomach for genocide in Darfour.

Palin “Washington outsider”. You voted for the war, now you are against the war.  Americans want straight talk. (lines went down). Called for divestment of funds in Sudan.

Biden: Line should be drawn. A) can we do anything about it. B) genocide disqualifies countries from having a say. McCain doesn’t get it about Iraq and has been wrong from outset.

Palin: McCain knows how to win a war, knows what evil is, knows how to learn from blunders in war in Iraq

Biden: Would carry out Obama’s policies. Restore middle class. Clean energy. End war. Go after Bin Laden, eliminate Al-Queda. Prevention not preemption.  Most important election since 1932.

Palin: Team of Mavericks. Not going to agree. McCain has not asked her to check opinions at the door. Get rid of greed on Wall Street. Take lesson from Wasilla Main Street (she created a $20 million deficit in Wasilla which had been solvent before she took over).

Biden: People know middle class has gotten short end.

Palin: There you go, Joe. Pointing backward.  Prefaced with “George Bush”. Biden’s wife’s reward is in heaven for being a teacher. Riff on education.

Palin: Vice Presidency. Lame attempt at joke. VP presides over Senate. Supports President. She would lead in energy and with families with special needs.

Biden: History of getting things done. Point for legistlative initiatives. Will sit in on all decisions, Barack wants his opinions and viewpoints.

Palin: Constitution allows much flexibility in role of VP. EXECUTIVE experience? Her?

Biden: Cheney most dangerous VP in history. Article One defines VP role clearly as executive branch. Presides only when there is a tie vote. Is not part of legislative branch.

Palin: Achilles heel? can’t even answer the question. Connection to heartland. Knows what other Americans are going through. World view: America is shining city on hill, perfect ideal

Biden: excessive passion, discipline. Was a single parent. Much better off than most Americans. But knows what it’s like to raise kids alone, not know if child is going to live.

Palin: Maverick. Change. Bipartisan. We have got to win the wars. Get rid of greed on Wall Street.

Biden: McCain is not a maverick on things that really affect folks. Education, medicine, war.

Biden: Changed his view on judicial appointments. Ideology of judge makes a difference.

Palin: passed budgets she did not believe in. Caved. No she has not had to compromise on things. Didn’t answer the question she was asked.

Biden: Bipartisanship. Has worked across the line. Changed both parties mind on occasion. Does not question motives, just judgments.

Palin: appoint people across party lines. Diverse family. At the end of the day, it’s gonna be okay. Lower taxes on businesses. Obama is saying no to energy independence, will kill jobs.  Trashed main-stream media. So glad to be an American. Have to fight for freedom.

Biden: Most important election. Dug into a deep hole in last eight years. Need fundamental change. Don’t measure progress on how CEOs are doing. Measure on if can pay mortgage, military is equipped. Dignity and respect.

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